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  1. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Factory original Chrysler ammeter-based Charging System and additional loading. Load placement matters!

    Oh yea, I’ve participated in numerous discussions over the years on various forums relating to ammeters and other original charging system issues and remedies. The load placement, or misplacement, impact on the factory original charging system seams to be the most mis-understood. Frankly the...
  2. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Factory original Chrysler ammeter-based Charging System and additional loading. Load placement matters!

    For those that are interested in a fact-based video presentation on this subject, specific to the original Chrysler factory charging system design and touching a bit on ammeters/melted bulkhead connectors, I submit this video, forgive the amateur production quality. Feel free to critique the...
  3. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Ammeter wires oh so hot!

    Just a quick note on the stock original "old ammeter gauge", in good shape, with correctly tightened/maintained connections, undamaged insulators, they don’t just fail for no reason whatsoever over time. The factory original ammeters are a simple device, stoutly constructed, with good...
  4. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Ammeter wires oh so hot!

    Curious, did the over-voltage charging condition mentioned in the first post get addressed? The wiring discussion here wouldn’t normally resolve an over-voltage condition as described.
  5. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Ammeter wires oh so hot!

    To be clear, the “fleet” or bulkhead by-pass would involve a direct wire run from the alternator to the alternator side of the ammeter (black ammeter original wire) and another run directly from the battery side of the ammeter (red wire) to the fusible link, by-passing the weak bulkhead...
  6. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Ammeter wires oh so hot!

    Yes, idiot lights used a switching sending unit and gauges used a variable resistance sending unit. But only true for oil pressure on Chrysler products from this time. No idiot lights used for temp monitoring. Check the sender resistance to ground, should be about 74 ohms cold, decreasing to...
  7. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Ammeter wires oh so hot!

    If you want the ammeter to function correctly it's a negative effect, running the alternator to starter relay by-passes the ammeter altogether, defeats it's purpose. It’s not moving around because the charging/discharging current has been re-routed. The factory “fleet by-pass” by-passes the...
  8. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    If the two outer terminals of the NSS/backup switch plug are jumped together, key-on, you should have back-up lights. If you do, it’s a switch problem. If the switch is new, check for an old seal doubled up between the trans housing and switch/seal, should be just one seal. If the switch doesn’t...
  9. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    After a closer look at one of your other pics, different angle, it appears that is not a jumper. Looks to me like someone has replaced the original NSS/back-up light trans harness with something home-made. Light blue wire (connected to the starter relay at the NSS terminal, original color-code...
  10. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    That plug should run to the reverse lamp switch on the transmission, jumped like that would have the reverse lights come on with key-on. Have you checked your reverse light operation?
  11. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    I had one of those, One of my current money pits.
  12. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    Blue fusible link is the factory link. If you are going to leave “underhood by-pass” in place, no point in replacing the ammeter, it will no longer function correctly. You would need to troubleshoot the high current condition routing through the original charge path, correct that issue before...
  13. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    I would strenuously challenge that assessment, never saw it on any correctly loaded untouched or correctly maintained Chrysler products at the dealers back in the day or since. Not many untouched/correctly loaded electrical systems in the Mopar’s that survive now are there. I’ve been owning and...
  14. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge just went on vacation...MMMM!

    I will pass along some observations here. First to those commenting about being shocked that Chrysler engineers would design such a charging system, I would just remind, every Chrysler passenger car product built since 1960, and through the late seventies, roughly a third of all US production...
  15. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Problems getting the right alt.

    Running an isolated field later alternator on a pre ’70 application is fairly easy. Common for rebuilders to modify one of the terminals and package as a pre-’70 application. Normally involved removing one insulating washers on one terminal and substituting a metal washer in its place, grounding...
  16. 72RoadRunnerGTX

    Alternator gauge pegs right when eng rev. Pics

    Properly maintained ammeters and related connections don’t “go bad” or “spontaneously combust” for no reason. Loose connections with high moisture exposure can lead to corrosion and resulting high resistance/heat damage while over-tightened connections will cause insulator failures. In this...
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