Has anyone ever seen a 69 (or other) come from the factory with 4 AMBER marker (reflector) lights?

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I know.
Maybe a stupid question.
Not red rear.
But amber there too.
All indications are this one slipped through St. Louis with a bunch of thrown together odd hardware, etc.
The variance from side to side are sometimes subtle.
Body panel differences you eyeball can pick up.
Back in 69 it might have been one of those "who cares" items on a low optioned lot car.
"We don't need no stinking DOT safety stuff".

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The reflector pockets have different part numbers from front to rear one has more angle than the other do to the curve of the quarter vs the fender, see if those are he same and also do the reflectors have push through tabs or just stick on which are after market. As far as the tail light bezels I have a couple of each, I figured on was factory and the other might be a dealer replacment?
 

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Here's some shots of the original fenders.
Either two different people sprayed the undercoating on each side or the guy got lazy.
I'm not reusing them and got AMD replacements.
Too rusty to fool with.
Those clip nuts are not designed to be removed. :)
(I've noticed the same thing applies to rear glass reveal molding clips. There is no provision for a tool to grab them unlike windshield clips.)


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This is a shot of an original AMBER that was on the rear quarter against a new RED one
Correct color. No obvious repaint.
There is a different angle but once installed it apparently doesn't show.
That have been a DOT test reflective thing.
I've put "new" quarters on.
The rear is now lighter without the 500 pounds of body schutz in the quarters.
Things are never simple with the government and lawyers.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pYktAAAAIBAJ&sjid=oZsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4057,3960132
http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/Amber/1963/Beware_Of_Amber.pdf
http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/Amber/1963/Amber_Front_Position_Lights_Consumer-Bulletin_v-47.pdf

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Got a tool that you can put in and get the revile clips to let the rear window trim come off. Believe I got it from classic industries.
 

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There doesn't seem to be a magic tool.
I've ground this one to try an improve it.
No such luck.
Over the years I've even tried to make a better "tool" from putty knives.
Thinner is gooder.
They work for a while and then break.
I found the back glass is not made to be removed before on a first Gen Charger.
And I test fitted the molding on the RR BEFORE even having the glass in the car or painting it, I found the same thing.
No way to get at tool under the clip.
It was obvious because I could see it without the glass in the way.

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Excuse the pollen in these pictures.
I've put a box around the are occupied by the molding.
As noted by the arrows, once installed a rear clip has no relief to allow a tool to grab the clip from behind.
It is flush to the car unlike a front clip which has a bow to allow false hope of removing the molding easily.
It's a tease.
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Remembering my first roadrunner back in the late 70’s the red reflectors would dry rot and crumble and fall out long before the amber , I myself found amber ones off a junk car just to fill the empty hole
 

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Yes, I have seen Roadrunners with 4 amber side markers and a friend said they were from the L.A. plant night shift where the workers were under the influence of herb and didn't give a shit. At least that was the story I was told but who am I to believe such drivel. My 69 Roadrunner came out of the L.A. plant with yellow and red marker lights, at least they were that way when I purchased it, and NO RUST.
 

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Well, I knew when I started this that water would be a problem but figured I would seal it some way other than "sealant".
In other words, I can make and gasket the chrome to housing.
But can't see anyway to keep water from between the lens and chrome since I don't want to "glue" the lens to the chrome.
I guess the idea was just to let water drain out the bottom of the housing??? That slit between the body and housing.
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