• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

Starter and Neutral Safety(See page 3)

CWR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
Messages
166
Reaction score
0
As previously mentioned I just acquired a '69 RR. As per my mechanical fitness test I know I need a neutral safety switch. Now when I start the car sometimes( maybe half the time) the starter still engages after starting. I turn off the key and the starter still turns but the engine isn't turning over. Put the shift lever thru all gears and it stops. maybe the next time all works normally. What do I have.............. 1. problem arising from neutral safety 2. ignition switch problem, 3. starter motor problem, 4 a relay problem somewhere.
I am hoping the neutral safey switch will solve the problem. Any ideas??

Also I am wondering about a very basic question...........how do you all start your engines? What is the best procedure to start a cold engine. (Sorry to be so basic, but I'm just a beginner!!!!
 

Big John

Sit back, relax Don't bitch about the cigar smoke
Joined
Sep 8, 2008
Messages
5,057
Reaction score
79
Re: Starting Problem!

Two or three problems that come to mind.

First problem is a bad starter solenoid. Not common, but possible. The starter solenoid pulls the starter drive into the ring gear and makes electrical contact to engage the starter motor. It could be sticking.

Second problem could be a bad starter relay. Those do go bad, but the usual scenario is it won't work at all. I suppose it could stick.

Third, it could also be the starter/ignition switch. Again it usually doesn't work at all, but this could happen.

My money is on the starter.
 

SomeCarGuy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2008
Messages
1,235
Reaction score
42
Location
Sometown in KY
Re: Starting Problem!

sounds like the starter has a bad solenoid

if your timing is set right, the carb isn't messed up, and the chain is tight, nit should fire as soon as the key is turned.

fast idle a little while then go
 

dobie

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2008
Messages
2,221
Reaction score
1
Location
Wooster, Oh
Re: Starting Problem!

Yeah, sounds like the starter to me too.

As for starting it, I usually pump the gas about 2-3 times to squirt fuel into her. Then I just crank her over. For the first few minutes I usually have to keep a little pressure on the throttle to keep the rpm's around 1700-2000. A few minutes later she's idling fine. I'll continue to let her idle for about 5 minutes or so to let her get warmed up.
 

Basketcase

Keeper of the Green
Joined
Sep 10, 2008
Messages
14,415
Reaction score
299
Re: Starting Problem!

I'll agree, sounds like a bad starter.
I just hit my gas a couple times and it fires right up. I have to feather the throttle for a little while. The choke was wired open when I bought it, and it warms up quick enough I just haven't worried about hooking it up.
 

CWR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
Messages
166
Reaction score
0
Re: Starting Problem!

I'm going to check it out when I get my windsheild washer pump and the neutral start switch.
When the car starts normal it usually fires right up........3 good pumps of the accelerator and turn it on ....... I let it warm up a few minutes then its great............. what about starting warm?.............i just turn the key and it starts. The other issue is very erratic. I'll start with the neutral start switch because I know that is faulty. I'm new at the game.!!!
 

CWR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
Messages
166
Reaction score
0
Re: Starting Problem!

I believe it is the old starter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ironically it started fine today!!
 

Basketcase

Keeper of the Green
Joined
Sep 10, 2008
Messages
14,415
Reaction score
299
Re: Starting Problem!

yeh, but there's nothing like the sound of the gear reduction starter.
 

ACME A12

Plaid Sport Coat Wearing Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 4, 2008
Messages
13,691
Reaction score
852
Location
New Port Richey, FL
Re: Starting Problem!

69hemibeep said:
Basketcase said:
yeh, but there's nothing like the sound of the gear reduction starter.
:thumbsup:

Gonna disagree with you two on this one; I have new mini starters on the 390 and the 340 in the Swinger and the '74 Duster. Man it's sweet when you hit that ignition switch on those two. When I jump in any of the other MoPars in the garage it's like a return to the dark ages... JMHO

Even if I were to do a by-the-book resto (not likely...) on Bambi - right down to the correct shade of green antifreeze (love that line, Big John...) per the guys on the A12 website - she's getting a mini starter when she goes back together... Why use tin cans and a string when you can use a cell phone..??? :yesnod:

:jester:
Ray
 

69hemibeep

Sponge Bob Square Wheels
Joined
Sep 10, 2008
Messages
22,202
Reaction score
2,437
Location
AZ Desert,
Re: Starting Problem!

ACME A12 said:
69hemibeep said:
Basketcase said:
yeh, but there's nothing like the sound of the gear reduction starter.
:thumbsup:

Gonna disagree with you two on this one; I have new mini starters on the 390 and the 340 in the Swinger and the '74 Duster. Man it's sweet when you hit that ignition switch on those two. When I jump in any of the other MoPars in the garage it's like a return to the dark ages... JMHO

Even if I were to do a by-the-book resto (not likely...) on Bambi - right down to the correct shade of green antifreeze (love that line, Big John...) per the guys on the A12 website - she's getting a mini starter when she goes back together... Why use tin cans and a string when you can use a cell phone..??? :yesnod:

:jester:
Ray
I don't care how well they work its all in the sound :jester:
 

ACME A12

Plaid Sport Coat Wearing Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 4, 2008
Messages
13,691
Reaction score
852
Location
New Port Richey, FL
Re: Starting Problem!

69hemibeep said:
I don't care how well they work its all in the sound :jester:


Okay, but after hearing the minis I don't like that either... :lol:

:jester:
 

ACME A12

Plaid Sport Coat Wearing Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 4, 2008
Messages
13,691
Reaction score
852
Location
New Port Richey, FL
Re: Starting Problem!

moparstuart said:
Basketcase said:
yeh, but there's nothing like the sound of the gear reduction starter.
they look sound and are the same as a gear redution on to me ?

Mine are Power Masters, not the stockers...

Ray
 

Roadcuda

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2008
Messages
10,547
Reaction score
297
Location
Rocky Hill, Ct
Re: Starting Problem!

Gonna disagree with you two on this one; I have new mini starters on the 390 and the 340 in the Swinger and the '74 Duster. Man it's sweet when you hit that ignition switch on those two. When I jump in any of the other MoPars in the garage it's like a return to the dark ages... JMHO

Even if I were to do a by-the-book resto (not likely...) on Bambi - right down to the correct shade of green antifreeze (love that line, Big John...) per the guys on the A12 website - she's getting a mini starter when she goes back together... Why use tin cans and a string when you can use a cell phone..??? :yesnod:

:jester:
Ray[/quote]
I don't care how well they work its all in the sound :jester:[/quote]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

moparstuart

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2009
Messages
6,627
Reaction score
7
Location
overland park ks / odessa missouri
Re: Starting Problem!

Roadcuda said:
Gonna disagree with you two on this one; I have new mini starters on the 390 and the 340 in the Swinger and the '74 Duster. Man it's sweet when you hit that ignition switch on those two. When I jump in any of the other MoPars in the garage it's like a return to the dark ages... JMHO

Even if I were to do a by-the-book resto (not likely...) on Bambi - right down to the correct shade of green antifreeze (love that line, Big John...) per the guys on the A12 website - she's getting a mini starter when she goes back together... Why use tin cans and a string when you can use a cell phone..??? :yesnod:

:jester:
Ray
I don't care how well they work its all in the sound :jester:[/quote]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:[/quote] my 69 has headers and the old big starter , It aint broke so i havent upgraded yet . But I have mini starter on the birdible and my 69 charger . Love them work great and starts right up every time with out killing my battery . I do love the old school starters sound but love the upgrades benefits more .
 

CWR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
Messages
166
Reaction score
0
Re: Starting Problem!

My original problem has'nt happened in the last 25 or so starts. Maybe it just had to be used!

out for a cruise this morning , every thing fine, Starts well ( old big starter) Temp good and oil P good. Even my wife likes it. Play '69 tunes on the CD...............it doesn't get any better than this!! :cheers:
 
Back
Top